10 Ways to Get a Job So Fast It Should Be Illegal

I'll say tell me how you fing jobs are applying I applied to 400 jobs hitting the cold apply button on LinkedIn just getting rejections and no interviews like that is super super common it is not good enough to have a link in a resume that summarizes well what you do often times they're not trying to ask a Goa question where if you don't have direct experience so it's just a fail they would love for you to offer an alternative something in the similar domain hi everyone I'm Devin kums I'm a CPA MBA and top financial adviser for Google Cloud but when I'm not doing that

I'm here on ambition aligned where I interview purpose-driven professionals who are making an impact in the world today I'm talking to my good friend Larry who has over 15 years of experience as a technical hiring manager at companies like Snap and Amazon where he was even the raise the bar interviewer and today he's left those companies to be an executive coach who guides professionals under those next big steps promotions new jobs career coaching you name it today he's going to give you his top tips to you and it's

going to be awesome this is extremely valuable content today so I encourage you to watch the whole thing through and click subscribe I'm I'm stuck I want to get a job in Tech help me help me break into Tech I want a better job or I want a promotion first of all there's a there's a mindset thing there's a lot of demoralization that can happen when people realize that they have a confidence to do their job if somehow they could just magically start at their next job on day one they would know what to learn what to do and within 30 days

they'll be like successful in running at full velocity and people have the confidence around that uh but there is a a mindset things a lot of demoralization that can H demoralization that can happen when you're going in the interviews because interview is a whole separate ball game requires a different skill set and it's super difficult it might be more difficult for experienced professionals than someone right out of uh school for instance or someone early career because it should be hey they should just understand where I've worked

in my experience and know that I can do the job why do I have to go through this game of answering hypothetical questions coming up with a resume and it just feels like a song and dance and and I'm just not Finding Traction like this is a really common story I'm an experienced professional I I know I can kick butt in my job but when I go on interviews it's just the message is just not getting across and so one is like change your mindset interviews are a different skill set

let's treat it like a job to learn that skill set and practice that skill set and if you come with it with that frame of mind you'll be generating a list of to-dos and you'll be setting aside time to work on these things each day um so a lot of a lot of what I do is just spending time getting like do does someone have the right mindset where they're willing to put in the work to play this game of of inter it's really interesting I'm seeing that a bit too when I'm coaching people of Executives

coming in looking for executive positions or senior people coming in for executive positions of top companies and they're surprised they're say why don't they just get it why isn't it easier I think like you said they forget when you're getting your first job it's you're working really hard at it a lot of you're doing interviews internships all this it's its own skill getting a job is a different skill than performing well at the job is that what you're saying yeah right that's exactly what I'm saying in early career you might come in with the the right amount of insecurity which gives you the right

amount of motivation to study for the interview by the time maybe there's a sense of entitlement when you have a certain amount of experience and you know you can do the job well that that you have to overcome a little resistance to get back to a learning mindset and take it seriously there's another Factor at play when you go on executive level interviews a lot of times there's a lot less structure to the interviewing process these are un corn-like positions um it it at you're going for early career software the recruiter will

tell you you're going to have an hour will you be tested on this an hour you'll be tested on this the executive level it's you're going to meet with a hiring manager for a for a culture fit interview then you're going to meet with a few other uh potential partners and stakeholders and it'll be culture F and and it'll just the the structure is not coming across therefore what are the expectations are not clear therefore what you should be saying and what will make a difference to say it's just there's there's just no rules it's a lot less clear to people and online advice

is so troubling to me because it's just very lightweight and non-specific and sometimes it's specific and it has the illusion of being valuable but really not and my favorite example is the star method if you if you don't how how should I talk about my experience in job interviews use a star method as given as as the absolute example like learn the star which for those who don't know talk about a specific experience that you've had an accomplishment that you've had and talk about it using the star framework which is first give the

situation then talk about the task you were assigned then give actions uh that you that you did to complete that task and then finally give the results and it's it's just uh troubling if that is someone's complete preparation is learning the star method for uh for job interviews but anyway to give to give people a break you're an experienced professional you're success why should you have to go through this interviewing game that's one bit uh to overcome and the other is you're about to go into a pretty unstructured interview process

what what what is expected of you is is is is a is a difficult thing to wrap your head around so first so I'm coming in the door I'm saying I want a better job first it sounds like Get me in the mindset of hey you're actually gonna have to put in some work this isn't gonna be a slam dunk this isn't just you're awesome and your ego your ego's going to get fed more you're probably going to get denied a bit and get ready for rejection and get ready to learn a new skill or Flex muscle you haven't flexed in a while what's next what what do they have to do next Deon I realized now I might be skipping a whole category

of things so we're talking interview prep and maybe we should just continue on that and get to the end but if we have time there's also getting those to begin with and that's that's how you're put that's a good point yeah so where where would you let's do that yeah let's start with as a great point so coming to you and saying I'm hey I'm a pretty reputable person I've had a few jobs I I'm looking for something better how do I even get my foot in the door what's going on what what do I do I'm not I'm I'm submitting a crap ton of resumés but

I'm not getting any leads I'm not getting any callbacks that's right and I will say right and I will look at your link it will be pretty good I will always have specific things I can help them improve but there's not going to be the huge difference maker they want it to be and I'll say let's look at your resume and it'll be pretty good and I'll give a few bits of advice and it'll get things better and then I'll say and then I'll say tell me how you're applying how you finding jobs are applying and then oh my gosh it'll be this answer um I applied to 400 jobs hitting the cold

apply button on LinkedIn there are a couple places where I knew somebody there so I got a warm referral and then but it still it wasn't uh they weren't hiring for the position that uh that I'd be good at so it's basically I'm just getting rejections and no and no interviews and and and that's that's like super I don't mean to make fun like that is super super common it is not good enough to have a a linked in a resume that summarizes well what what you do uh I there there's specific

things to do to optimize those you should have a very clear about me so when it finally gets to a human they understand what you're about and the kind of things you're you're capable of doing it have very specific things about your accomplishments without revealing confidential data uh confidential information with your company but if you can provide data about how you got um a key metric from 4% to 20% that's wonderful but in general um you should be echoing As Much from the job descriptions out there as possible on the resume and your LinkedIn so that the

keyword matching on on the machine scanning uh will work to get it to a human and then you want a nice quer objective statement so a human is impressive one that's resume in LinkedIn networking is the thing that is missing for most people be and most people know this and it's just so difficult for them to get over the hump so networking from two angles networking from uh inside out and from outside in okay so let's start with inside out you're looking for jobs

and you see job listings so you're starting there this is the inside out so you are how do you work backwards from a listing to where you can use your network the obvious answer is what first deegree connections do I have people who work there um that's and that's that a non-obvious one is what are the second degree connections LinkedIn when you do a company search will you can pretty easily see what are your second degree people connections basically who do you

know that knows somebody that works there having and sending and working that angle basically asking the person you know to introduce you to the person at that company is easy in terms of effort and the time it takes but difficult in coming overcoming the resistance like ah is this person going to want to help me I think if someone reaches out to you for help even if you knew them 10 years ago and haven't spoken since if they

thought highly of you at the time they will still think highly of you and in general people want to help so that that that's that's maybe that's all the encouragement you will need to send those messages in the future to ask someone you know to introduce you to someone you don't know and then what that ation look like um hi you know we've never met before I saw this job listing I I'm not I I would just like to know I'm interested I may apply for this job what's it like to work there what's the best part about working there what's the worst part about working there do

you happen to work um anywhere close to where you know anything about the team that is hiring and then that's it and you hope and you just you know you you've made a connection it would be nice if they said um and let me tell you they will volunteer I can refer you if you want but you I want you to you don't have to come from this place of um it is it might be difficult to come from this place of asking for a favor so I'm saying you don't even have to ask for a favor what's it like to work there thanks for this information I really

appreciate it um by the way um uh you know if you're if you're comfortable um fast tracking my application that'd be great but if not no wor so this okay that's outside outside in and I before we get into there I'm curious I just want to pause s inside out we're starting by looking at the job and then looking for who we might be connected to there or if we know anyone who might be connected to anybody and asking for introductions I'm just recapping and then yes not leading

with hey can you get me a job more leading with hey can you just tell me a little bit about it can you tell me connecting with the person and then most likely once you do that and they find you're looking for work they'll submit a warm referral is that right and how effective is this compared to the resum optimization that you said and like you don't have to we don't have to cite literature here or anything it's just from a percentage if you were to get someone in the door how much effort would you say they put on networking and how much would that would impact their careers versus optimizing their resume

in LinkedIn and applying you know spamming rums I think it's multipronged and you never know which is going to make the difference but if you can but networking is a lot more effective I say you never know what can make the difference because it might be you are the perfect candidate for a job and you don't know anybody there and you submit your resume and because you have a well-written resume you got the interview and and you're in so I don't want to say don't pay attention to it

but in general optimizing your resume in LinkedIn is pretty easy and you should just do it and there's a bunch of free advice out there on how to do it uh networking is hard for those people but most times it is the most effective way to get a job sometimes without even having to go through a job yeah yeah I think that's what I'm seeing a lot too and I just want to Echo everything you're saying is spoton I can't tell you how many people I see who are saying that they're interested and finding work but then all they do is do the easy

apply on LinkedIn and then when you start talking about networking there's nothing or I might be just spamming people can you send look at my resume and can you submit it right it's no connecting so um it's really helpful thinking from the right inside out tell me about outside in what's outside in yeah so outside in is where you start with your network letting people know that you're interested in finding your next opportunity and this takes a bit more

usually a little more resistance to overcome um and and and but can be so effective and it's a a little more effort because you're really the just the number is greater usually usually usually there's there's hundreds of people your potential list so I just say get an Excel spreadsheet get a list going of people that you once knew or you knew and it's anybody who thought well of you that's it it's anybody you think you made a positive impression on doesn't have to be a close relationship

uh it doesn't have to be someone who's hiring right now doesn't have to be someone who works at a company uh that that you want to work for and and the message is short and sweet text is better then email then LinkedIn how you know but whatever they're most likely to respond to hey it's been a while I I remember fondly of the time we X Y and Z fill in the blank something personal I wanted to let you know I'm on the I'm on the I'm

seeking my next opportunity these are the kind of things that um I'm interested in the kind of things I'm good at this is I'm looking for a a new role where I can do ABC um if you know of anything let me know otherwise it'd be great to catch up you know be great if you're local you know have coffee um that hope you're well that's and that's that's really it there's a key thing I would ask actually the key bullet is that um in addition

to if you know of any opportunities right after that should be if you know of any anybody that might know of other opportunities I'd appreciate a Nitro and that like is a power bar for your network it just exponentially extends your network you're reaching out to someone and now you're saying if you know of anybody else I should be talking to I would appreciate that connection so that that's into the nutshell it's hard it's it's easy and hard to do at the same time but you should be sending out these messages like five a day and

it should get to the hundreds that you've sent them you know it's such a tripa it makes so much sense to me and I'm trying to remember like even just 10 years ago when I was looking for work it was all in person I felt like there was stuff online but right like and what you're recommending is just this new digital age that a lot of people need to get used to that a lot of networking happens digitally now and we don't have as many inperson events so for example when I'd find my old jobs you know you kind of complain you drink a beer with someone after work and they're saying hey you know this other person I know is

hiring I'd love to introduce you right that was much more natural and happened a lot 10 10 even five years ago before covid yes we're not seeing that as much anymore and it's now happening electronically so if you're especially say you know at least in my age range you know mid-30s mid 40s you you got to get used to this new phase is what you're saying right is you need to be comfortable reaching out to people that you used to know your friends family co-workers anyone that you left a positive impression on and then you're going to tell them that you're looking

like you're looking hey I'm looking for some work to do you know anybody right and that's your outside in is am I saying that right yeah you're saying it right and I love the observation about there were just a lot more opportunities to have these same conversations in person uh uh a little bit ago I would I would also say the people you're likely to hang out with is a smaller group than anybody you've ever known and these probably not 5 years ago but now the market is is

really tough it it'll take that extra effort you might have to reach into your deep Network whereas before your group uh that you might come across in person probably enough probably enough right but now there's a lot more competition uh hopefully by the time people hear this podcast uh the the cycle the pendulum has swung toward where it's an employee driven Market but right now it's an employer driven market so so um reaching out to your extended Network and getting comfortable with the digital thing is it's incumbent upon most job

Seekers yeah it's interesting it's a new skill Flex say no these are already tools I haven't thought of this way so this has already been extremely helpful you're going to see how having someone like you and their Corner could be really valuable um from just trying to get in the door right and so is there anything else I'm missing it's like how does someone get in the door to to find to at least land the interviews there is a way there is um interview I do some work with the

company interviewing.io and the uh founder alen learner had a great blog post she posted on LinkedIn and she posts on the I .io blog interviewing.io blog so if you Google it you will be able to find this she had a great tip for okay you don't know anybody you don't have any first or second degree connections but you want to email the hiring manager and it's a wonderful she she talks about third-party databases you can subscribe to say here's the job listing find me the hiring manager is get me their email

address and it's really interesting there's useful data there I haven't tried it personally but I I do want to put this out there and I'm not obviously I'm not taking any any credit for it but if you're willing if there's a job you're just like this is the job for me I need to find a way to connect the hiring manager and my network or network of networks isn't cutting it there are third-party databases you can use um uh uh to help and there are good tips in that article for what to say in that email yeah that's a great that's a great tip I've seen even on LinkedIn sometimes they'll show the hiring manager and I

can't tell you how many people I've talked to where I show them that and then I ask have you reached out to them if they and I like no no we just applied it's like you know who the person is just reach out like just talk talk to the hiring manager they're gonna they're gonna be the right people right so right and it's something psychological because I bet if you ask that same person should you reach out to the hiring manager they'll say yes like they they know people know um it's just hard we talk stop for that for a second before we talk about interviewing

because I think that's a natural next segue is as a client someone's coming to you and they're saying hey what do I do and you tell them all the networking tips you tell them exactly what they need to do to land a an interview I'm guessing you're finding you're going to find out a lot of those people don't execute probably from some mental block right some yeah that mean yeah the the the people that I work yeah there's a and after they're not executing before they

work with me if they if they're committed enough to show up and work with me that it it's not it's not difficult to overcome the resistance and they'll they'll what is that resistance and how do you get them over how do you get them over that resistance yeah yeah yeah so I think it's about goal setting because I think it's about making progress when you're not motivated to make that progress and and this is an environment

and you know when you're in transition in your career this these are a t this is a time of highs and lows every day a lot of days will be all lows and it it it'll be and you're you know there you're accountable only to yourself there's no one hovering over you assigning you work and saying it's due in the next seven days so you're accountable only to yourself and demoralization is a is a high probity likely to be demoralized a good part of the time so I ask people what would what

what are ways that you could work and make progress on the things you know you should be doing even when you're not in the mood to do it like what are way you can do it it's different for everybody um and and and common answers are I'm I'm just going to make a very specific set of tasks and I'm going to do some tasks each day so that when I wake up in the morning and I have these two hours to work from that I set aside um I I don't have to do any thinking I know it's send this email to this person send

this LinkedIn to this person look on this job board and apply to 10 jobs it's about making low thinking concrete tests and holding yourself accountable to making some progress each day but the answer is different for everybody how can you make progress it is usually about time blocking it so that there's a start and a finish time and and it's about removing any ambiguity and having a list of to-dos that you just go through no matter what kind of me yeah that's great I like how you brought it to the behavioral because a lot of times

when I talk to people they'll bring up some mental blocks of hey I just don't feel confident or there's some other aspect but the only way you get through that is the behavioral stuff right is hey you got to just hit the list you gotta get you got to build a confidence through your getting in the rests right AB yeah absolutely I I it would it would um I because I feel like I know where I know where job Seekers are coming from I've been there I'm I'm not going to change their mind and make

searching for jobs a very you know happy world where I love doing it I wish I could do it fulltime you know that that's not going to happen so it is about how can we Mo move forward until we're in our next until we're we're in the dream job and then and then it's all um um I yeah I I don't know I don't know where I don't know I don't really have a nice button to put on that but like let's get through this job search transition phase and let's just do it and it'll be faster the the more quickly we can move through our Tod I like that I like that but just like hey the sooner

we get to work here the sooner we'll be done with the process if you hate it then that just means you should work faster you need the job eventually right like you're trying to get from point A to point B this is the transition let's let's let's find a way to get through this transition and remind something one of my old bosses used to say where it's like if you're going to make me eat crap don't spoon food it to me you know like just me it all eat all in one bite so exactly right okay cool okay I may we

already burden through time I wish we even had more maybe we'll talk more in detail sometime about if any questions come up from the audience but what let's go to interviewing okay they listen to you they actually executed they got over their mental blocks or whatever's blocking them they behaviorally executing they have a few interviews lined up now what yeah it's another perception change a lot of people think that they I don't see like a too much of a structure for this

upcoming interview the recorder told me just who I'm meeting with and very vague things that we're talking about if anything um and I have no idea what they're going to ask and I go on Google and I see what are the top 100 job interview questions I'm like okay yeah but I I can prepare for those but I have no idea which they're going to ask and the the the mind I asked people to have or the thing I I remind them of no matter what the question you have a limited set of

stories from your personal experience that you're going to talk about and it's not really limited like in in that you did something wrong it's just that we just have a finite of AC a finite set of accomplishments that we're proud of and we're going to talk about in the interview so I asked them to approach it from that perspective what are the experiences and accomplishments that I am really hoping the interviewer asks about let me take the time to prepare

those story so that I can talk about them really effectively really concisely so I'm confi conveying great communication skills at the same time that I'm conveying my accomplishment let me polish those stories and then so this is what I ask people to focus on I I I give them a set of writing prompts um for instance a tell me about a time you delivered something with big impact overcoming hurdles tell me about a time you went deep into a problem that or a system

that was just really complex it took some time to understand tell me about a time you did that and what was your approach tell me about a time you had a disagreement was that you know there's I'm not going to give them a 100 possible job interview questions I'm going to give them the eight writing prompts that is going to give them a broad set of stories and help them remind them of the stories that they're just hoping they ask about and then no matter what question they're asking they're going to pull from this set of story if the stories are mey enough if the stories are and and and if the story

is is Rich with data and Rich with actions you took and you can talk about the context in a way um that that communicates very quickly with the situation was to someone who wasn't there um and you can talk about your short and long-term results uh that is so so effective and when you have a set of meaty stores you're going interview no matter what the question is most likely you'll be able to talk about these stories not not verbatim as if you memorize but you'll be able to talk about the slice of each story the

dimension of the story that the interviewer is asking about if he's talking about conflict you can pull from a story if he's talking about um delivering something big you might be able to talk about that same story but through a different dimension so you're still improvising you're but you're pulling from a set of stories that you've really like spent time thinking about how to tell effectively and then instead of improvising 100% of the interview you might get one question where you know none of your stories apply through your thinking in the moment but now that's only a small

amount of time during the interview rather than your whole interview for people who just I think that's great feedback me being at Google and giving interviews I see that way too often where they go into like the star method I even hear people quote it out loud saying oh well I'll tell you the situation that happened and they quote something from their resume and there's no substance there's no I like what you said mey and we are such story based people if you can everyone has some kind of cool accomplishment they've done in their life if you can just name a few of them yes and they're slightly relevant

to the question being asked that's going to be way better than then trying to come up with some formulaic inauthentic answer right yeah yes 100% yeah I I go a little deeper like I have I have my you know Star Plus way like I structure to it but the most the most important thing is have a mey story and it's not whether you're using start to tell it or not the the story is the important yeah I love it the story told effectively what would

you say for sometimes sometimes people are going through the interview and it's clear that they don't have the experience for the role so let's say you're interview you're in the interview and you're getting some questions and you're realizing oh wait a second I don't have any of this background what is that what would you recommend to that person like in that interview oh to be honest like so you

know you you don't want to trigger someone's BS detector know so um you want you want to be honest um um but there's there's there's different ways of saying I don't know I I like the yes and approach where you're saying you know this you know I I don't have experience that directly answers that but I can think of something similar do you want to hear a time where I did this so you're proposing an alternative often times the interviewer just is trying to find out the best your best accomplishments you know

what give me some data to grade you on that often times I'm not trying to ask a gotta question where if you don't have direct experience of it's just a fail like it it might just be they would love for you to offer an alternative something in the similar doain anyway that would be nice if you can uh about about um uh what's another what's another Al alternative uh just just saying I don't I you know um I think we can pretty much offer an alternative I think that's the key but

but be honest I like the honesty I because that happens to me I'll see it when I'm interviewing somebody and when they start bsing that that's so true it's something everyone talks about behind the scenes is like oh did your BS meter go off yeah it went off this guy is just just taking it or I other common tools that I I find I'm curious and maybe helpful for your practice is like deflecting when someone you ask a question and they say oh yeah I've done that by the way you have a nice guitar over there do you play guitar or you know them trying to change it you're okay buddy I I got to get where this is going so um so just being honest saying

I don't know yeah I don't I'm sorry I don't have that experience but I like the offer but I I have something tangential I have something similar um K would this be helpful to you or would this help be because Point as an interviewer we're just trying to see what relevant experience you have right and it's okay like what what you said before is this is part of a process right so if this isn't the right job for you it's okay you're going through this process you'll find other ones yeah like like and as an interviewer from that perspective like sometime you know tell me about the time you built a SC a team from scratch you

know you had to hire and plan a new team I'm I'm fine with an answer that says you I I just haven't had the opportunity to do that but let me tell you about a time I so if they don't even offer an alternative I'll say no yeah no problem how about a time you had to change the direction of an existing team you had to bring a team and completely uh priorities changed and now we're we're working on something different or a time that you implemented a reor tell me about that often that answers makes me just as happy um so I'm

not trying to like play gotcha game and and I think it's important for job Seekers to know that most interviewers just try to find what are you what are your what what are you bringing to the table table and I'm going to judge you uh from a holistic picture there's not going to be one missing checkbox that yeah yeah most people want to give you the job once you're in the interview they don't they don't want to do a thousand interviews right so they're trying to help you yeah they're trying to help totally 100% yeah this is great so what's next so then they're going through the interview any other tips I I recommend so so yeah I think um having

in a great um tough answer to tell me about yourself is another key thing uh um especially For Less structured interviewers that'll be the most common question you'll get tell me about yourself walk me through your resume why are we here today and and tips for that is um I I could just be really brief brief with this one but I I think reverse Chron chronological is important I think start with your most impressive and that usually is your most recent experience rather than oh when I went to

school here and then early career this and midcareer this and now I think it start with oh yeah right now I I I most recently I I worked here and this impressive role and I accomplished these couple things before that I did this before that I did this in general I'm passionate about X wary and and the the the other tip I think it's important to turn it around um and even though it's a question is talking about yourself I think you should end with and why I am interested in this specific opportunity is I know these people and I've worked

with them or I saw this in the job description or I'm familiar with this company and I know the the the kind of Chan challenges your fac or I saw this in job description and these challenges really spoke to me I this is why I'm interested in this particular opportunity and I if you have to I have a question for you about this like turning kind of ending with a question for them would be like the most polished thing in my opinion but that that that's a high level I think having a good answer to tell me about yourself would would really because you just blew my

mind I never thought about that yeah well I blew your mind I mind think about the reverse chronological piece and then spinning it into a question that's that's something I've never done and that's a great call because it is gets a little long-winded no one wants to be like oh crap I got to listen to this guy's whole life story like you want to start with why is it relevant to them and it's starting with like here's what I'm doing now here's how what I've crushed and then ending you know brushing over the rest and then ending with here's why it's relevant to you this is what I know about the job and

can you tell me more about it like giving an easy offer or an easy answer or softball that's just a solid that's a solid setup Larry I never heard I never heard that before that's really good well thank you yeah I mean it's often the first question you'll get asked uh when when you meet an interviewer and then so so it's first impression time your first impression shouldn't be um especially for experienced professionals it shouldn't be I went to the school my first job was first impression is I just accomplished this something big at this

at this job like that that's what so that's I I think that what drove my thinking on that's awesome almost reminds me of like doing YouTube shorts and stuff it's like you got to grab the attention of that viewer yeah you got to get that attention of the viewer yeah no it's true it's true it's true like I I said I have a my Star Plus approach it's called H sale but that you know it's an acronym but H is headline like start with a headline like don't dive into well I was working at this company and then this happened and then we had this Challenge and then my role was this and

this like that's all important but like start with let me back tell about a time um this it was the the company had the biggest priority no one figured out no one knew how we were going to accomplish it but I figured out a way let me tell you that story okay now you can go into I was at this role these are the teams I was working with you know so so first impression going on a dating date right it's like your dating profile you're not going to be like oh let me tell you about when all the problems I had with my mother and how she hated me when I was a boy and I had trouble like you know you're not going to start there

you're going to start with like oh look at me when I was in the best shape of my life and and all my accomplishments right and so that's yeah it's like that that's that's a really cool way to look at it so then what's next and maybe we're running low on time so we're gonna probably have to do another session sometime if you're open to it but how do you close that's a question I get a lot too is now at the end they say do you have any questions for me sir or manam oh yeah what do you what do you recommend okay how much is this one minute we got

we got we got a few minutes how much time okay okay okay but I might be able to even do it wom okay so questions during the interview should reveal information to you so you do want information you do want to ask questions where you're genuinely curious but they should convey your enthusiasm for the role you have very important questions no doubt about what's in it for you what are the benefits what's the career path how quickly I can I get promoted um uh

you these types of questions do not ask these questions during the interview those questions come after you get the offer right now your job is to get the offer once you get the offer now you can ask for follow-up questions with the hiring manager or the recruiter and you ask your what's in it for me question so that's at the highest level what not to ask like it um so what what two ask questions that you're genuinely C curious about that would um also convey you enthusiasm for

the role so examples if I were to join what what what what do you Hess I would accomplish in the first 30 days another question what's your favorite thing about working here another question which is kind of negative it's okay what's your least favorite thing about working here as long as that's followed as long as you first ask what's your favorite thing about working here and another another one is I noticed this from the job descriptions really really

interesting could you tell me more about like I have a background in this area I can talk a lot but I'm really curious how it's applied in this company so it shows you your conveying your interest in the role I like it it makes perfect sense you're essentially saying hey let me I want to recap all of thisse chronologically go into go into it then do your meaty story and then don't end by asking how much are you going to pay me how much time I I get what are the benefits and instead

with real genuine curiosity about the role showing enthusiasm and asking real questions yes I might have misunderstood your question I say the close for the tell me about yourself yes ask a take any of those examples questions not the what's your favorite part of working here but say I know if this from job description or I know this about the company or the company made a blog post tell me more so that is important to ask a question um I tried to give advice for

at the end of an interview usually there's a couple minutes left over oh that's what I was maybe I Mis it do you have any questions you me that we're on the same on the same page then it's kind of the same advice either way it's kind same advice that's good and I I think it's helpful too not to ramble at the end like I've had interviews where then people just keep asking questions and you're trying to close it naturally and it's not natural like yeah asking real questions are useful right again to the BS meter yeah um we only got a few minutes left so I like to do just a rapid fire at the end with everybody

just for a little bit of fun where I'm going to ask you just a few questions about yourself if you're comfortable and then ending with like a piece of words of wisdom and then if this was helpful to people we'd love to have you back on and maybe do a deeper dive into there sounds like a lot more we can talk about so I'm G to ask a few what's your favorite dessert uh um Ben and Jerry's ice cream specifically fish food man I haven't had that in a while that's so good that's a

really good one oh man um okay what's your favorite book you read recently favorite book I read recently I read two and recently that stick in my mind and okay I'll just I'll just go the the engineering executives primer by will lson I've never heard of it that sounds

fascinating yeah that's I it's it's pretty new um but it it it's kind of it it it's very eye openening like what is the job of an executive like CTO level what should you be doing when your whole background has been solving technical problems and then you've even had some senior level position so you you know how to lead people but what are the problems that you need to be concerned with when your partners are now other sea Lev people and people and you lead

the engineering uh function it's F sounds that sounds perfect and perfect what you're doing in the Executive coaching world where that's so hard for technical happens in finance too on my side happens the technical side where okay they're really good technically but now they're not just leading people but they're managing other leaders and that's a a whole different skill set right and yeah having a coach like you is perfect for that okay I'll keep going my questions so what's your least favorite piece of advice that people give use the star method you see a

little triggered that's it's not that there's anything I mean I do have a couple things wrong with the star method like the word task usually under sells quite a bit what you're actually accomplishing it's not you're you're not solving a big problem because you were assigned a task but um my larger part is usually people advice begins and ends with use of star method and I think it's just one of many pieces of advice to give but usually when people say use the star method they're like now you're done that's all you need to know so that's why it's my

least favorite yeah makes perfect sense Mak that's really funny too um especially being the career coaching because that's what you see I can't tell you how many people I've heard or I've interviewed where I've seen people say well I'll use the star method here first the situation like whoa this is as a little this is a least authentic thing you could do you don't you sound like you sound like chat gbt right now right so okay I want to end with imagine now you're on the stage it's going to be your 10c or 30 second viral YouTube short and you want to give some really

impactful advice you know your negative wisdom that you're going to sell to the world go no pressure thank God thank thank thank God there's some post post production and editing you could de here my God you did not tell me this question so so sorry I repeat the question please I can give advice to the world it's not about me it's what advice I give you know it could be about career coaching too it's just about what would what sits

with you that you think people need to hear right now that would be valuable let's keep it in the theme I'm going to speak to the job Seekers of experience professional hang in there I've been where you're at I've been on the other side interviewing and still we're everyone is rooting for you no matter what side you're on it's not as adversarial as you think

uh when you're ghosted it's nothing personal plug away every day there is there is an end to this and the end used to come in 30 days now it's taking 90 days or a little longer but you'll find your dream job keep at it Larry that's awesome I'm going to close there and I hope to have you back on some other time this is great man dein thank you so much